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Best befitting the description "a kaleidoscope
of electronic melancholia -- music for astronauts, aliens and all marginal
beings living at the frontiers."
Alien Skin is George Pappas, long-time keyboardist with legendary Australian
band Real Life whose timeless '80s smash Send Me
An Angel is still a regular on radio playlists worldwide and covered
by countless of underground, goth & electro artists.
In 2008, after a number of acclaimed albums and world tours with Real
Life, covering the US, Europe and Australia, he morphed into
Alien Skin, releasing his much anticipated debut album, Don’t
Open Till Doomsday.
Compared to Depeche Mode and Enigma,
and vocally to Martin Gore (DM) & David Sylvian of Japan,
this body of work further established his signature sound of vast empty
darkness and melodic melancholia.
The release in 2010 of The Unquiet Grave album, finds
the music of Alien Skin continuing to attract thousands of devotees
across the world with atmospheric songs of seductive gothic ambiance,
woven together into mesmerising and enigmatic webs.
His beginnings are fleshed out in the following interview, given during
the release of Don't Open Till Doomsday, 2008.
The making of The Unquiet Grave can be watched as a
series of YouTube videos.
Interview with George of Alien Skin, 2008
By way of introduction and before discussing your debut album
Don't Open Till Doomsday, let me ask you about your background
in Australian band, Real Life. How long were you the keyboardist with
the band?
I wasn't the original; Richard Zatorski takes the credit for
that. I've been the longest stayer though, at least a good decade since
the mid nineties.
'Send me an Angel', Real Life's signature song is still a radio
favourite and considered an 80s classic. Performing the song live, has
the excitement remained strong after all these years?
Send me an Angel is always a fan favourite at shows. The opening couple
of bars are enough to send an audience into a blissful frenzy. In fact
we often reprised it as an encore and got everyone who wished to, jump
on stage and sing it with us. It often became riotous! Whether on tour
at home, the US or Europe, the reaction has always been one of great
anticipation and excitement. So yes, it was always full of energy for
us because of the audience. We never tired of it!
After a number albums with Real Life you have now established
yourself as Alien Skin. How did this come about?
David Sterry and I have been co-writing for quite a number
of years and collaborated on many great tracks, but I have a strong
passion for writing my own songs and wishing to explore areas that didn't
work within the format of Real Life, and I love interpreting the tunes
myself.
On return from our US tour of 2004 I began thinking seriously about
working on an album of my own songs. A perspective and mood that would
be different to what I had been doing although still very much electronically
centred. Enter Alien Skin. Health and personal issues, though, delayed
the venture for quite some time.
Why Alien Skin?
Soon after the 2003 release of our (Real Life) Imperfection
album I was preparing to undergo major surgery. The last few days prior
going into hospital were quite unsettling and bleak, being a cold and
miserable winter didn't help. I started developing a musical piece that
captured the mood I was in. I finished the draft the night before my
admission.
It eventually turned into the song Alien Skin, the notion that you can
be two different entities, at least in perception. The 'thing' you are
inside... the notion that you can be two different
entities, at least in perception. and the 'thing' that you present,
or are seen as, externally. Hence the lyric 'the Stranger within, Alien
Skin'.
Later, in scrolling through name ideas in my head, those two words kept
appealing to me most. I have been accused of looking like an alien before
though!
'Martin Gore before the guitars', did you really define Alien
Skin that way?
Well, I was being pushed to describe what Alien Skin sounded
like, that was the first appropriate response I could think of. Depeche
Mode has always been musically educational and inspirational for me,
right from the wee early eighties. I discovered in the songwriting of
Martin Gore an organic connection with my creative aspirations. Depeche
Mode's musical and live band perspective, especially with Alan Wilder,
really nailed it for me, pointing towards a direction I have since pursued.
Your debut album is called Don't Open Till Doomsday.
Tell us about the title.
I had various working titles such as 'Ashes and Dust', 'After
the Funeral'... I think you get the idea. The mood of the album was
already set in my head. I'm not adverse to humour, frivolity and sunshine
but I wanted to delve into another area where I know other people also
find refuge. I can better identify with a melancholic mindset than an
energetic puppy dog personality.
I think the title Don't Open Till Doomsday inspires a certain mental
attitude, a dark cautious curiosity. It just happens to also be an episode
from one of my favourite early sixties TV sci-fi series, The Outer Limits.
How did you prepare for the album?
Some of the songs already existed in other forms though they were radically
twisted to work within the musical theme of the album. I wrote quite
a number sitting in front of the TV late at night with an acoustic guitar,
inspired at times by disparate ideas that were flashing by on the screen.
The next day I would develop the song sketches with keyboards and beats.
It functioned like this for a while, some songs worked others didn't,
some are still to be completed.
The sound is often quite sparse; the synths the beats, the songs
work well in this context. Was this intentional?
Yeah, with this album a conscious decision was made early on
to create a fluid body of songs bereft of the harder edge and dance
beats prominent in my previous work in Real Life. The album inhabits
a darker, bleak and brooding area I've always wished to explore. I'm
not known to spare density in production as Real Life's last few albums
will testify, but this album is consciously minimal. For me, the collection
of songs here is best enjoyed as a whole; it's the sum that generates
the overall atmosphere.
Let's talk about the songs.
Sure.
Your album press release states 'with subject matter that ranges
from estranged Sci-Fi love, to Jacob's Ladder, to Hiroshima'. Can you
tell us about the songs being referred to?
Estranged sci-fi love? The opening song 'The Outer
Limits' is an obvious one here. That vintage TV show again!
I intentionally wanted an opening to the album with a sparse and ethereal
soundscape. It establishes the mood for what is about to come. I place
myself in the mental state of a creature, or anyone, separated from
their other half by the insurmountable vastness of distance, time and
space. It may seem an extraterrestrial theme but translates in any contemporary
context I believe.
Jacob's Ladder was originally a biblical story of an imaginary ladder
leading up to heaven, where angels ascended and descended. My inspiration
in writing the song 'The Spirit is Willing' The
story is a journey the mind takes in the last hours or moments, from
a struggle against to finally acceptance of the inevitable, your own
death.is actually from a Tim Robbins movie entitled Jacob's Ladder.
Briefly, Robbins' character is a returned - after being wounded in action
- Vietnam War soldier whose mind has become confused and delusional
as he struggles with his own mortal reality. My interpretation of the
story is as a journey or trip the mind takes in the last hours or moments,
from a struggle against to finally acceptance of the inevitable, your
own death.
'Dust to Ashes 1945' refers to the atomic bombing of
Hiroshima, Japan in 1945. It was the first detonation of a nuclear device
over a populated city in history. The lyric tells of a survivor who
still has nightmares of that early Monday morning, August 6. It was
an act of mass destruction unknown up to that time, I believe it was
a political consideration and decision rather than a military necessity.
In today's global political climate, the threat of a Hiroshima being
repeated is ominously returning so I thought it a relevant and timely
subject to revisit.
Razor Arms, is this song's masochistic overtone deliberate?
Yes and no. Often lyrics were written in a stream of consciousness
manner, I wasn't actually aware till it was completed that it tended
to point in that direction. I feel most of us, if we're passionate enough
about something, or someone, can pressure ourselves into a masochistic
state of mind. The song for me has a certain European minor key flavour
to it, one of the earliest written for the album and a personal favourite.
I have to mention the song, Gloomy Sunday; it's almost electronic
acapella. What can you add to this?
Electro acapella? Well, nearly. I tried a variety of approaches
for this song; none inspired me as much as this final version which
is pointedly sparse with dominant and heavily treated vocals. It was
the most appropriate means to express the sentiment in the song, and
no it has nothing to do with the early last century piece with the same
name, which is still a spine-chiller!
There is a recurring female spoken voice on some songs, who
is that?
The voice contribution on the songs The Spirit is Willing,
For Always and Alien Skin is from Iryna, who also designed the CD artwork
and website. She, in her own right, is a great writer of disturbing
poetry and short stories… and, oh, also happens to be my wife.
Keeping it in the family as they say:)
Finally, you had full control over the production of the album,
has this been a blessing?
As we all know, doing it independently grants creative authority
but no financial support. Aside from mastering I had control of all
the processes from the writing, production and engineering.
Opening up the market to independent artists
via new technologies diminishes the need to grovel at the feet of corporations.
I think opening up the market to independent artists via new technologies
like the internet, digital recording etc is truly revolutionary and
to be welcomed and diminishes the need to grovel at the feet of corporations.
The big music players are still necessary to make an artist a household
name, but they've become almost superfluous in the link between creating
and expressing your own ideas and distributing them successfully yourself.
For me Don't Open Till Doomsday has been a hard slog, but it has given
me great satisfaction to have been able to achieve this result.
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